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Missing Hyper-V Service Connection Point caused failed off-host backup proxy jobs

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The issue

We have a largish Windows Server 2016 Hyper-V cluster (9 nodes) that is running a smooth as can be but for one issue. The off-host backups with Veeam Backup & Replication v9.5 (based on transportable hardware snapshots) are failing. They only fail for the LUNs that are currently residing on a few of the nodes on that cluster. So when a CSV is owned by node 1 it will work, when it owned by node 6 it will fail. In this case we had 3 node that had issues.

As said, everything else on these nodes, cluster wise or Hyper-V wise was working 100% perfectly. As a matter of fact, they were the perfect Hyper-V clusters we’d all sign for. Bar that one very annoying issue.

Finding the cause

When looking at the application log on the off-host backup proxy it’s quite clear that there is an issue with the hardware VVS provider snapshots.

We get event id 0 stating the snapshot is already mounted to different server.

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Followed by event id 12293 stating the import of the snapshot has failed

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When we check the SAN, and monitor a problematic host in the cluster we see that the snapshot was taken just fine. what was failing was the transport to the backup repository server. It also seemed like an attempt was made to mount the snapshot on the Hyper-V host itself, which also failed.

What was causing this? We dove into the Hyper-V and cluster logs and found nothing that could help us explain the above. We did find the old very cryptic and almost undocumented error:

Event ID 12660 — Storage Initialization

Updated: April 7, 2009

Applies To: Windows Server 2008

This is preliminary documentation and subject to change.

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This aspect refers events relevant to the storage of the virtual machine that are caused by storage configuration.

Event Details

Product:

Windows Operating System

ID:

12660

Source:

Microsoft-Windows-Hyper-V-VMMS

Version:

6.0

Symbolic Name:

MSVM_VDEV_OPEN_STOR_VSP_FAILED

Message:

Cannot open handle to Hyper-V storage provider.

Resolve

Reinstall Hyper-V

A possible security compromise has been created. Completely reimage the server (sometimes called a bare metal restoration), install a new operating system, and enable the Hyper-V role.

Verify

The virtual machine with the storage attached is able to launch successfully.

This doesn’t sound good, does it? Now you can web search this one and find very little information or people having serious issues with normal Hyper-V functions like starting a VM etc. Really bad stuff. But we could start, stop, restart, live migrate, storage live migrate, create checkpoints etc. at will without any issues or even so much as a hint of issues in the logs.

On top of this event id Event ID 12660 did not occur during the backups. It happens when you opened up Hyper-V manager and looked at the setting of Hyper-V or a virtual machine. Everything else on these nodes, cluster wise or Hyper-V wise was working 100% perfectly Again, this is the perfectly behaving Hyper-V cluster we’d all sign for. If it didn’t have that very annoying issue with a transportable snapshot on some of the nodes.

We extended our search outside if of the Hyper-V cluster nodes and then we hit clue. On the nodes that owns the LUN that was being backup and that did show the problematic transportable backup behavior noticed that the Hyper-V Service Connection Point (SCP) was missing.

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We immediately checked the other nodes in the cluster having a backup issue. BINGO! That was the one and only common factor. The missing Hyper-V SCP.

Fixing the issue

Now you can create one manually but that leaves you with missing security settings and you can’t set those manually. The Hyper-V SCP is created and attributes populates on the fly when the server boots. So, it’s normal not to see one when a server is shut down.

The fastest way to solve the issue was to evacuate the problematic hosts, evict them from the cluster and remove them from the domain. For good measure, we reset the computer account in AD for those hosts and if you want you can even remove the Hyper-V role. We then rejoined those node to the domain. If you removed the Hyper-V role, you now reinstall it. That already showed the SCP issue to be fixed in AD. We then added the hosts back to the cluster and they have been running smoothly ever since. The Event ID 12660 entries are gone as are the VSS errors. It’s a perfect Hyper-V cluster now.

Root Cause?

We’re think that somewhere during the life cycle of the hosts the servers have been renamed while still joined to the domain and with the Hyper-V role installed. This might have caused the issue. During a Cluster Operating System Rolling Upgrade, with an in-place upgrade, we also sometime see the need to remove and re-add the Hyper-V role. That might also have caused the issue. We are not 100% certain, but that’s the working theory and a point of attention for future operations.

Replay Manager 7.8 and cluster OS rolling upgrade Tips

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Compellent Replay manager 7.8  Windows Server 2016 Clusters in mixed mode or at cluster functional lever 8

Consider this a a quick publish about tips for when you combine Replay Manager 7.8, Compellent and Windows Server 2016. Many of you will be doing cluster operating system rolling upgrade of your Windows Server 2012 R2 clusters to Windows Server 2016. If you have done your homework and made sure your hardware is supported you can still run into a surprise. As long as your in mixed mode (Wi2K12R2 mixed with W2K16 nodes) or have not updated the cluster functional level to 9 (Windows Server 2016) you will have a few issues.

In Replay Manager 7.8  itself you’ll notice that the nodes of your cluster only see the CSV LUNs under local volumes that they are the owner of currently. Normally you’ll see all of the CSV LUNs of the (Hyper-V) cluster on all of the nodes of that cluster. So that’s not the expected behavior. This leads to failed  restore points when you run a snapshot from a host that is not the owner of the CSV etc.

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On top of that when you try to run a backup job it will fail. The reason given is:

The requested volumes is not supported because it is not managed by the provider, is a dynamic volume, or it has some other incompatibility with the current operation.

The fix? Just update your upgrade cluster to cluster functional level  (level 9)

It’s as easy as that. The moment you upgrade your cluster functional level to 9 you will see all the CSV on the cluster on every node of that cluster you connect to. At that moment the replays will also work. That’s OK, you want to move swiftly trough the rolling upgrade and once you’re comfortable all drivers and firmware are working fine. You do not want to be in a the lower cluster version too long, but upgrade to benefit from the new capabilities in Windows Server 2016 Failover clustering. You do need to know this when you start your upgrades

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Close your backups apps, restart the Replay manager service on the cluster nodes, refresh / reconnect to the backup apps, and voila. You’ll see the image you are use to in Replay Manager 7.8 (green text / arrows) and the backup jobs will work as well as any other backup product using the Compellent Replay Manager 7.8 hardware VSS provider.image

I hope this helps some of you out there. So yes Replay Manager 7.8 supports Windows Server 2016 Clusters with CSV LUNs but if you upgraded your cluster via cluster operating system rolling upgrade you need to have upgraded your cluster functional level! Until then, Replay Manager 7.8 isn’t going to work very well.

So there you go, that’s another reason to move through that process fast and smooth as you can.

Still missing in action for Hyper-V with Replay Manager 7.8

I’d really like for Replay Manager to be a bit more cluster friendly. No matter what node you are connected to they show you all CSV LUNs in the cluster. Since Replay manager 7.8 with Windows Server 2016 when you run a job manually you must start it when connected to the cluster node that owns the CSV or the job will fail with “No resources found on current cluster node for backup set”.

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This was not the case with Windows Server 2012(R2) and earlier versions of Replay Manager. That did throw some benign errors in the event logs on the cluster node but it did work. I would love for DELLEMC to make sure the Replay Manager Client is smart enough to detect who owns the CSV and make sure it’ starts the job from that node. That would be a lot more user friendly. At the very least it should indicate which of the CSV LUNs you see are owned by the cluster node you are connected to.But when launching a backup job for a CSV that’s not owned by the node you are connect to the job quits/fails. They can detect the node they need, launch the job on that node and show it to you. That avoids having to go find out yourself what cluster node to connect to in Replay manager when you need to run a out of schedule job manually? The tech/logic is already there as the scheduled jobs get launched on the correct node.

It would also be great if they finally could get the logic built into Replay manager for the Hyper-V VM backups to know on what CSV and Hyper-V node the VM lives and deal with that. Sure it might cause more more snapshots to be made but that’s an invalid argument. When the VMs are on the same node,but different  CSV’s that’s already happening. Really on VM per job to avoid this isn’t a great answer.

Troubleshooting Veeam B&R Error code: ‘32768’. Failed to create VM recovery snapshot

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I recently had to move a Windows Server 2016 VM over to another cluster (2012R2 to 2016 cluster)  and to do so I uses shared nothing live migration. After the VM was happily running on the new cluster I kicked of a Veeam backup job to get a first restore point for that VM. Better safe than sorry right?

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But the job and the retries failed for that VM. The error details are:

Failed to create snapshot Compellent Replay Manager VSS Provider on repository01.domain.com (mode: Veeam application-aware processing) Details: Job failed (‘Checkpoint operation for ‘FailedVM’ failed. (Virtual machine ID 459C3068-9ED4-427B-AAEF-32A329B953AD). ‘FailedVM’ could not initiate a checkpoint operation: %%2147754996 (0x800423F4). (Virtual machine ID 459C3068-9ED4-427B-AAEF-32A329B953AD)’). Error code: ‘32768’.
Failed to create VM recovery snapshot, VM ID ‘3459c3068-9ed4-427b-aaef-32a329b953ad’.

Also when the job fails over to the native Windows VSS approach when the HW VSS provider fails it still does not work. At first that made me think of a bug that sued to exist in Windows Server 2016 Hyper-V where a storage live migration of any kind would break RCT and new full was needed to fix it. That bug has long since been fixed and no a new full backup did not solve anything here. Now there are various reasons why creating a checkpoint will not succeed so we need to dive in deeper. As always the event viewer is your friend. What do we see? 3 events during a backup and they are SQL Server related.
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On top of that the SQLServerWriter  is in a non retryable error when checking with vssadmin list writers.

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It’s very clear there is an issue with the SQL Server VSS Writer in this VM and that cause the checkpoint to fail. You can search for manual fixes but in the case of an otherwise functional SQL Server I chose to go for a repair install of SQL Server. The tooling for hat is pretty good and it’s probably the fastest way to resolve the issues and any underlying ones we might otherwise still encounter.

After running a successful repair install of SQL Server we get greeted by an all green result screen.

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So now we check vssadmin list writers again to make sure they are all healthy if not restart the SQL s or other relevant service if possible. Sometime you can fix it by restarting a service, in that case reboot the server. We did not need to do that. We just ran a new retry in Veeam Backup & Replication and were successful.

There you go. The storage live migration before the backup of that VM made me think we were dealing with an early Windows Server 2016 Hyper-V bug but that was not the case. Trouble shooting is also about avoiding tunnel vision.

Off Host Backup Jobs with Veeam and Replay Manager 7.8

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It’s all about application consistent hardware VSS provider snapshots

I was browsing to see if I could already download Replay Manager 7.8 for our Compellent (SC) SANs. No luck yet, but I did find the release notes. There was a real gem in there on Off Host Backup Jobs with Veeam and Replay Manager 7.8. We’ll get back to that after the big deal here.

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So what kind of goodness is in there? Well obviously there is the way too long overdue support for Windows Server 2016, including the Hyper-V role and its features. That is great news. We now have application consistent hardware VSS provider snapshots.I do not know what took them so long but they need to get with the program here. I have given this a s feedback before and again at DELL EMC World 2017 The Compellent still is one of the best “traditional” centralized storage SAN solutions out there hat punches fare above its weight. On top of that, having looked at Unity form DELL EMC, I can tell you that in my humble opinion the Compellent has no competition from it.

Off Host Backup Jobs Veeam Replay Manager 7.8

Equally interesting to me, as someone who leverages Compellent and Veeam Baclup & Replication with Off Host Proxies (I wrote FREE WHITE PAPER: Configuring a VEEAM Off Host Backup Proxy Server for backing up a Windows Server 2012 R2 Hyper-V cluster with a DELL Compellent SAN (Fiber Channel))  is the following. Under fixed Issues is found:

RMS-24 Off-host backup jobs might fail during the volume discover scan when using Veeam backup software.

I have Off host proxies with transportable snapshots working pretty smooth but it has the occasional hiccup. Maybe some of those will disappear with Replay Manager 7.8. I’m looking forward to putting that to the test and roll forward with Windows Server 2016 for those nodes where we need and want to leverage the Compellent Hardware VSS provider. When I do I’ll let you know the results.