Trouble Shooting Windows Server 2012 host based CommVault Backups with DELL Compellent hardware VSS provider of Hyper-V guests: ‘Microsoft Hyper-V VSS Writer’ State: [5] Waiting for completion

We have been running CommVault Simpana 9.0 R2 SP7 in combination with the DELL Compellent Hardware VSS provider to do host based backups of the virtual machines on our Windows Server 2012 Hyper-V clusters host with great success and speed.

We’ve run into two issues so far. One, I blogged about in DELL Compellent Hardware VSS Provider & Commvault on Windows Server 2012 Hyper-V nodes – Volume Shadow Copy Service error: Unexpected error querying for the IVssWriterCallback interface. hr = 0×80070005, Access is denied was an due to some missing permissions for the domain account we configured the Compellent Replay manager Service to run with. The solution for that issue can be found in that same blog post.

The other one was that sometimes during the backup of a Hyper-V host we got an error from CommVault that put the job in a “pending” status, kept trying and failing. The error is:

Error Code: [91:9], Description: Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS) error. VSS service or writers may be in a bad state. Please check vsbkp.log and Windows Event Viewer for VSS related messages. Or run vssadmin list writers from command prompt to check state of the VSS writers.

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When we look at the Compellent controller we see the following things happen:

  • The snapshots get made
  • They are mounted briefly and then dismounted.
  • They are deleted

The result at the CommVault end is that the job goes into a pending state with the above error. When we look at the state of the Microsoft Hyper-V VSS Writer by running “vssadmin list writer” …

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… from an elevated command prompt we see:

Writer name: ‘Microsoft Hyper-V VSS Writer’
…Writer Id: {66841cd4-6ded-4f4b-8f17-fd23f8ddc3de}
…Writer Instance Id: {2fa6f9ba-b613-4740-9bf3-e01eb4320a01}
…State: [5] Waiting for completion
…Last error: Retryable error

Note at this stage:

  1. Resuming the job doesn’t help (it actually keep trying by itself but no joy).
  2. Killing the job and restarting brings no joy. On top of that our friendly error “Volume Shadow Copy Service error: Unexpected error querying for the IVssWriterCallback interface. hr = 0×80070005, Access is denied.“ is back, but this time related to the error state of the ‘Microsoft Hyper-V VSS Writer’. The error now has changed a little and has become:

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Writer name: ‘Microsoft Hyper-V VSS Writer’
…Writer Id: {66841cd4-6ded-4f4b-8f17-fd23f8ddc3de}
…Writer Instance Id: {2fa6f9ba-b613-4740-9bf3-e01eb4320a01}
…State: [5] Waiting for completion
…Last error: Unexpected error

To get rid of this one we can restart the host or, less drastic, restart the Hyper-V Virtual Machine management Service (VMMS.exe) which will do the trick as well.  Before you do this , drain the node when you pause it, then resume it with the option failing back the roles. Windows 2012 makes it a breeze to do this without service interruption Smile

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The Cause: Almost or completely full partitions inside the virtual machines

Looking for solutions when CommVault is involved can be tedious as their consultancy driven sales model isn’t focused on making information widely available. Trouble shooting VSS issues can also be considered a form of black art at times. Since this is Windows 2012 RTM an the date is September 20th 2012 as the moment of writing, there are not yet any hotfixes related to host level backups of Virtual machines and such. CommVault Simpana 9.0 R2 SP7 is also fully patched.

This,combined with the fact that we did not see anything like this during testing (and we did a fair amount) makes us look at the guests. That’s the big difference on a large production cluster. All those unique guests with their own history. We also know from the past years with VSS snapshots in Windows 2008(R2) that these tend to fail due to issues in the guests. Take a peak at Troubleshoot VSS issues that occur with Windows Server Backup (WBADMIN) in Windows Server 2008 and Windows Server 2008 R2 just for starters  As an example we already had seen one guest (dev/test server) that had 5 user logged in doing all kinds of reconfigurations and installs go into save mode during a backup, so it could be due to something rotten in certain guests. There is very much to consider when doing these kinds of backups.

By doing some comparing of successful & failed backups it really looks as if it was related to certain virtual machines. A lot of issues are caused by the VSS service, not running or not being able to do snapshots because of lack of space so perhaps this was the case here as well?

We poked around a bit. First let’s see what we can find in the Hyper-V specific logs like the Microsoft-Windows-Hyper-V-VMMS-Admin event log. Ah lot’s of errors relating to a number of guests!

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Log Name:      Microsoft-Windows-Hyper-V-VMMS-Admin
Source:        Microsoft-Windows-Hyper-V-VMMS
Date:          19/09/2012 22:14:37
Event ID:      10102
Task Category: None
Level:         Error
Keywords:     
User:          SYSTEM
Computer:      undisclosed server
Description:
Failed to create the volume shadow copy inside of virtual machine ‘undisclosedserver’. (Virtual machine ID 84521EG0G-8B7A-54ED-2F24-392A1761ED11)

Well people, that is called a clue Winking smile. So we did some Live Migration to isolate suspect VMs to a single node, run backups, see them fail, do the the same with a new and clean VM an it all works. and indeed … looking at the guest involved when the CommVault backup fails we that the VSS service is running and healthy but we do see all kind of badness related to disk space:

  • Large SQL Server backup files put aside on the system partition or or other disks
  • Application & service pack installers left behind,
  • Log and tempdb volumes running out of space.
  • Application Logs running out of control

That later one left 0MB of disk space on the system (Test Controller TFS shitting itself), but we managed to clear just enough to get to just over 1GB of free space which was enough to make the backup succeed.

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Servers, virtual or physical ones, should to be locked down to prevent such abuse. I know, I know. Did I already tell you I do not reside in a perfect world? We cannot protect against dev and test server admins who act without much care on their servers. We’ll just keep hammering at it to raise their awareness I guess. For end users and production servers we monitor those well enough to proactively avoid issues. With dev & test servers we don’t do so, or the response team would have a day’s work reacting to all alerts that daily dev & test usage on those servers generate.

The fix

  • Clear at least 1GB or a bit more inside each partition in the guest running on the host that has a failing backup. I prefer to have at least a couple of GB free  (10% to 15% => give yourself some head room people).
  • Then you can resume the backup job manually or let CommVault do that for you if it’s still in a pending state.
  • If you’ve killed the job make sure you restore the
  • Microsoft Hyper-V VSS Writer  to a healthy state as described above. Thanks to Live Migration this can be achieved without any down time.

Conclusion

There is experimenting, testing, production testing, production and finally real life environments where not all is done as it should be. Yes, really the world isn’t perfect. Managers sometimes think it’s click, click, Next, click and voila we’ve got a complex multisite system running. Well it isn’t like that and you need some time and skills to make it all work. Yes even in todays “cheap, fast, easy to run your business form your smartphone”  ecosystem of the private, hybrid and public cloud, where all is bliss and world peace reigns.

The DELL Compellent Hardware VSS provider & replay manager service handle all this without missing a beat, which is very comforting. As previous experiences with hardware VSS provides of other vendors make us think that these would probably have blown up by now.

DELL Compellent Hardware VSS Provider & Commvault on Windows Server 2012 Hyper-V nodes – Volume Shadow Copy Service error: Unexpected error querying for the IVssWriterCallback interface. hr = 0x80070005, Access is denied.

As you know by now I’ve been building a high throughput, large volume Disk2Disk backup solution and that has been rather successful. At optimal speed we get 2TB/Hour per backup media server. As we currently have two, we can get to 4TB/hour at maximum throughput Smile. Currently that is, we’ll see if more is possible. The solution, which I’ll blog about later, is based on the Dell Compellent hardware VSS provider (Dell Compellent Replay Manager 6.2.0.9), Windows Server 2012, CommVault 9.0 R2 and PowerVault storage a the target disks and as it’s working now is saving us many hundred of thousands of Euros compared to dedicated D2D backup appliances or solutions.

The entire process has been a fairly smooth one, which was a relief as decent hardware VSS providers are not easy to come by, based on our experience and that of many colleagues. So, once again the DELL Compellent choice is turning out to be a good one. We did have to fix one small issue along the way.

Whilst using the DELL Compellent Hardware VSS Provider with Commvault Simpana 9.0 R2  to do host level back of the virtual machines on Windows Server 2012 Hyper-V cluster nodes. We ran into a small issue. The backup run fine but we saw this error being logged:

Volume Shadow Copy Service error: Unexpected error querying for the IVssWriterCallback interface.  hr = 0x80070005, Access is denied.
. This is often caused by incorrect security settings in either the writer or requestor process.

Operation:
   Gathering Writer Data

Context:
   Writer Class Id: {e8132975-6f93-4464-a53e-1050253ae220}
   Writer Name: System Writer
   Writer Instance ID: {3f4965d8-10ac-411b-bf6d-6a607f237775}

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The description found here was not helpful in resolving this. This error is found all over the internet with just about any backup product. The possible causes and solutions that are suggested are as follows:

Change the Language for non-Unicode programs to English (United States)

This is not a solution in our case, which would have surprised me if it had been.

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Eliminate the error condition by adding the access permissions for the domain account that the Compellent Replay Manager Service for Microsoft Servers (VSS) runs under to COM Security of the affected server

As the domain account used for this service is a member of the local administrators group that already has the permissions this would also have surprised me but we tested it anyway. It turns out this is not the cause either.

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But for your information this is how it’s done:

You can eliminate the error condition by adding the access permissions for the Network Service account to the COM Security of the affected server. To add the access permissions for the Network Service account, do the following:

  • From the Start Menu, select Run
    The Run dialog opens.In the Open field, input dcomcnfg and click OK.
    The Component Services dialog opens.
  • Expand Component Services, Computers, and My Computer.
    Right-click My Computer and click Properties on the pop-up menu.
  • The My Computer Properties dialog opens.
  • Click the COM Security tab.
    Under Access Permission click Edit Default.
  • The Access Permissions dialog opens.
  • From the Access Permissions dialog, add the DOMAINcompellentreplayservice account with Local Access & Remote access allowed (cluser => not just a local host).
  • Close all open dialogs.
  • Restart the computer.

The real cause & solution

According to Microsoft support this issue occurs when using a 3rd party backup program that utilizes Windows VSS (Volume Shadow Service) and has its own requestor. This is indeed the case here. “It looks like the requestor (the backup application) does not allow system writer to call back into their process and hence generates the error in the application log.” This sounds very plausible Winking smile

The fix:

  1. The following example grants access to the "DOMAINcompellentreplayservice" account.
  2. Click on Start, type regedit in the search box.
  3. On the Registry Editor window, navigate to: KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>SYSTEM>CurrentControlSet>Services>VSS>VssAccessControl
  4. Add a DWORD value with the name: "DOMAINcompellentreplayservice" and set the value to “1”.

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And voila: the error has gone when running backups Open-mouthed smile

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I assume no responsibility if you do this in your environment but I can say that all this works perfectly in our CommVault Simpana 9.0 R2 setup whist backing up the virtual machines on our Hyper-V cluster nodes at the host level using the DELL Compellent hardware VSS provider. And yes this is Windows Server 2012, careful testing, planning helps when being an early adaptor.

Altaro Hyper-V Backup 3.5 Supports Windows 2012

Altaro is one of the first backup vendors to support Windows Server 2012 with release of Hyper-V Backup v3.5. It has few that can match that speed to market and then we’re talking the likes of CommVault who Altaro can teach some lessons left and right (I should know, I’m a long time CommVault customer and whilst a great product they should really address some issues, hire a GUI developer is one, get decent information and accessible support is another, we won’t even mention pricing Winking smile).

With Altaro Hyper-V Backup v3.5. we get full support Windows Server 2012. That is CSV 2.0, VSS backups of SMB 3.0  etc. As an early adaptor I can appreciate the speed and time to market of a backup product. I do not like 3rd party vendors keeping me back of getting the most of Volume License software assurance so these things matter to me when selecting products.

Check out htttp://www.altaro.com/hyper-v-backup/ for more information. Some of their customers are enough to make you look at their solution. At least it made me do so => Harvard University, Max-Planck Institute, Los Alamos National Laboratory, Princeton University, US Geological Survey, … etc. (I’m a scientist by training so yes these customers appeal to me Smile) .

Disclaimer: No I did not ever accept any offer for sponsorship from any vendor, even if asked, just because I wanted to make sure you know who’s story I’m telling.

Windows Server 2012 RTM in Production as Backup Media Server

As Brad Anderson suggested a few times this year we are leading our businesses to a better IT future. Here’s a quick screen shot of one of our backups media agent servers hooked up to bunch of NL-SAS disks (150TB). One host (older model, no 10Gbps yet, running Windows 2008 R2) is sending backups over its dedicated 1Gbps interface to this media agent server who has a 10Gbps interface. Performance and traffic looks great Smile. I love it when a plan comes together!

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This is what I looks like at host being backed up

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Now we’ll see what magic Data Deduplication can do for us with the RTM bits!